Long Argument about Sex Roles!

While reviewing the saved text chats of John and I, I found this which I think is both funny and interesting... already sounds like a scene from a play!

12/23/2005

Tina: i believe in perfection
Tina: nothing
Tina: just know how crazy i am
Tina: then decide
Tina: im not really the kitchen type
Tina: or the bed type
Tina: or the motherly type
Tina: or any type
Tina: im something hard to live with
Tina: im kind
Tina: loving
Tina: giving
Tina: protecting
Tina: yet hard to live with
Tina: i can drive you mad
Tina: i have the potential to drive you mad
Tina: and also to make you feel so happy
Tina: the happiest man on earth
Tina: generally
Tina: i can be a better friend .. or a lover than a nice wife
Tina: that's the truth about me
John: so what type are you?!
John: we need to eat!
John: i dont cook!
Tina: i cook
Tina: surely
John: we have to be realistic
Tina: i adore food lol
John: i know a few dishes
Tina: sure
John: but with my hours
John: i wont be able to cook
Tina: ill cook
Tina: i love that
John: thats your job sweetie! lol
Tina: sure
Tina: its settled
John: so youll have to like the kitchen
John: otherwise
John: we are eating McDonalds!
Tina: cleaning is yours.. cooking is mine
Tina: shopping is mine too
John: cleaning?
John: you want me to clean too?
Tina: too?
Tina: lol
Tina: that would be your sole job in the house
Tina: ill do the rest
John: well
John: i dont like to dust
Tina: cooking and shopping and dishwashing is mine
Tina: then what do you like to do?
Tina: sitting and playing games?
John: i have sentimental attachment with dust
John: becuase i know my skin particles are there
John: we can play the guitar
John: music
John: creativity
Tina: then well need to hire a maid
Tina: an old one
John: and i will wait anxiously for the food
Tina: so that you cant get romantic around her when im not there!
John: sure
Tina: lol
Tina: shell be over 50 anyway
John: noooooooooo
John: she has to be a french maid
John: 22 years old
Tina: over 50
John: nooo
Tina: thats it
Tina: not even 49
John: hell no
John: hell no
Tina: hell yes
John: 22
Tina: sure yes
John: from france
John: with that cute outfit
Tina: 50 from morocco
Tina: lol
Tina: 50?
Tina: nice then
John: depends
Tina: i see im going to get married to a man with a terrible taste lol
Tina: bad taste
John: now that i think about it
Tina: common taste
John: how so?
John: i love beauty
Tina: 50-year-old moroccan maids have ugly spots on their face!
John: forget about it..i can fix the things around the house
John: light bulb
Tina: lol
John: i can paint
John: do stuff like that around the house
Tina: so you expect me to clean the toilets?
John: ill clean the kitty litter thats all
John: i do that all the time
Tina: do you think its gentlemanly for you to let me do that?
John: everytime i sit down
John: i spray it with lysol
Tina: ok then
John: and wipe it good before using it
Tina: thats your job still
Tina: not mine
Tina: lol
John: so... it gets cleaned automatically by me very often
John: but women usually do that you know
John: you can get the tub and sink
Tina: not me
John: moping and sweeping all you
John: cleaning and cooking
John: all you
Tina: thats not fair
John: well
John: we can say its my duty
John: but im like a stubborn teenager
John: ill say ill do it
John: but i wont
John: dishes is you too
John: but youll be yelling at me to do things
Tina: then we leave it at that.. dishes can pile up
Tina: lol
John: and youll end up doing it yourself
Tina: im used to see piled up dishes everywhere
John: because i get into my creative modes and i cant be stopped!
Tina: and im used to live in dust
Tina: lol
John: i wont do dishes
John: because my hands wont fit in cups
John: soap will damage my hands
Tina: ill do them despite my hatred
John: and there are knives and forks
John: men arent supposed to do dishes
Tina: so you need to be a bit more cooperative
John: our hands are too big
Tina: women arent supposed to do toilets
Tina: or sinks
Tina: or tubs
John: but youll be home for 6 months
Tina: your dad used to do the tubs lol
John: thats not true
Tina: not your mom
John: here they do
John: and indian women do
John: indian women are the best cleaners in the world
Tina: not how ive been raised up
John: the bathroom is the ladies area
Tina: its all my dad's job to do here
John: it has a mirror
Tina: my dad cleans the sinks and tubs and all
John: and women like things to be tidy and clean
John: not men
Tina: ok then
Tina: im not a woman then
Tina: you're going to marry Tina
Tina: not a woman
Tina: TINA
John: i just spray the toilet seat with lysol because i have OCD and i dont like germs
Tina: so i dont care
John: oh stop it
John: its not that bad
John: after all that
Tina: i wont do the cleaning
John: we can make love
John: and read books
John: stop that
John: are you on strike already?
Tina: i wont turn into a housewife
Tina: yes i am!
Tina: you can get maids
John: thats what you will be for 6 months
John: dont get all feminist on me
John: that crap doesnt work with me
Tina: neither with me
John: you dont want to do the dishes... fine
John: ill do them
Tina: so we can happily live in dust
John: but if theres a problem with the car
Tina: i dont have a problem with that lol
John: when there is a blizzard outside, and we are stuck on the highway...
John: guess what
Tina: i know
John: you're getting out there and under the car and under the hood to fix it
Tina: but its not just practical
Tina: im going to both work and go to school
John: ill stay nice and toasty in the car.. and file my guitar nails
John: thats different
John: thats why we might need another wife!
John: lol
Tina: no
Tina: we need another maid
Tina: and a bit more cooperation from you
John: screw maid
John: you want me to get the bathroom
John: and do it as my chore?
Tina: no
John: i can
Tina: in fact
Tina: i dont want you to do anything
Tina: ill do them all myself
Tina: really
John: i will clean the bathroom
John: ill do it
John: no problem
Tina: you can if youd like to
Tina: but no problem if you dont like to
Tina: thats it
John: but when theres a problem with the roof in the winter, and there is ice on the shingles, you have to go up there on the ladder and get on the roof with the hammer and nails
John: ill get the bathroom :-)
John: no problemo
John: should i cook too?
Tina: its just..if i were a man.. i couldnt see my lady bending down over the bathtub cleaning it with her little hands
Tina: her weak arms
John: lol
Tina: but i think maybe we're different in this
John: women clean the bathroom here
John: in fact
John: they dont let the men
John: and
John: walking in the bathroom
John: with your lady bending over
John: is the best time to have some nice spontaneous loving making.. just when she isnt expecting it
Tina: yes
Tina: sure
Tina: but still
Tina: after that
John: i just cant see you on the roof when its ice cold out with a hammer in your hands!!!!!
John: hmm
John: depends
John: its just
John: i believe cleaning the house
John: is the woman's job
John: decorating it
John: its hers
John: even if the man pays for it
John: its like
John: my cats.. are mine really.. so they are my responsibility really
John: feeding them, their litter.. i will do that
John: thats mine
John: my car
John: our cars
John: is my responsibility
John: to maintain
John: i could leave it for you
John: but i wont
John: its a man's job
Tina: i thought you were a bit more flexible with the idea of sex roles
John: the garage and tool shed
John: is mine
Tina: just that
John: sure
John: i am
John: but im talking about housely responsibilities
John: now..
Tina: then what is all this about? lol
John: if you go to work and school
John: we will face a problem
John: ill be doing most of the house stuff
John: and im going to be cranky
John: but ill have to deal with it
John: you can bet.. that the house wont be so clean
John: and the quality of my cleaning will be low
Tina: i wouldn't care
Tina: its alright
John: if there is any cleaning done by me at all! lol
Tina: its ok
John: ill try
Tina: i just dont want to feel limited in certain ways
Tina: neither of us
John: isnt this all complicated?
Tina: it is
Tina: we need to do things on a schedule
Tina: and share things
John: sure
Tina: when im not home..youll cover for me.. when you're not.. I'll cover
Tina: besides
Tina: you're a man
Tina: dont forget
Tina: you're stronger than me
John: its just..
John: kind of gay to be doing dishes
John: a man does it when he's alone
John: but when there is a woman there
John: and she's not doing them
John: it looks bad for both!
Tina: i see you're obsessed with this senseless gay stuff
John: the man's parents say
John: why are there so many dishes there?
John: and
John: you are skinny.. is that wife even feeding you at all?!?!
Tina: i see you have the same crap over there..sex roles!
John: why is the house a mess
Tina: the same crap we have over here
Tina: the hell with parents
Tina: literally
Tina: and the hell with all
Tina: i care about us..you and I
John: but it is my money that funds our life
John: so traditional women have their duty
Tina: so you feel you're going to hire me?
John: it is hard work
Tina: im not traditional
John: but you feel good doing it and having your man come home.. busted from work... and complimenting you on the amazing food and clean house
Tina: you know that
John: well
Tina: sure
Tina: if i have the damn time
John: just dont get feminist on me.. cause ill beat that right out of you
Tina: ill do it twice a day
Tina: cleaning and cooking and all
Tina: but i know i wont have time
Tina: ill be busy
Tina: so we need to be practical
John: right
Tina: and
John: well
Tina: im not feminist
John: if you want
John: youll have work and school
John: i can just stay home
John: and be a housewife myself!
John: LOL
John: have a baby
Tina: i have no idea
John: and ill raise it
John: dont worry!
Tina: maybe i should not get married
John: LOLOLOL!
John: hahaheheha
Tina: and im not feminist
John: that was a good one!
Tina: youre like all other men in this respect
John: you know it!
Tina: as i can see
John: id be such a sissy man at home
John: with the cleaning gloves on
John: and the mop
John: yes
John: men want their wives to take care of them
Tina: i thought you were realllly more flexible with all this stuff
John: its fundamental
Tina: sure
Tina: ill do
Tina: like i said
Tina: so stop this
John: im flexible
Tina: listen
John: very
John: its just
John: i have lunch now!
Tina: i dont care about all this
John: LOL
John: me either
Tina: im just trying to be me
John: just do the damn dishes and their wont be a problem!!! :-)
Tina: ill do them
Tina: like i said
John: i have to go sweetie
John: i have to go now lol
Tina: and ill do anything else as long as i can
John: relaxxxxx
John: you're appreciated
John: and i have hope in you
Tina: just wanted you to stay flexible about all this and dont think that traditional
Tina: ok
Tina: go take care of your business
Tina: take care
John: well
John: we will talk later
John: Muah
Tina: ok
John: im having indian food
Tina: muah
Tina: very nice
Tina: enjoy
John: and im taking extra time so i have to run!
John: bye
Tina: bye

John is away at 9:29:59 PM.